Galactic Republic

Just to be clear, the Mandos were attacking Kuat anyway. It was part of their anti-force crusade. Crom'nen just got them to leap-frog the order so that they attacked Kuat before Corellia.

Also, did Rawkill just demand that we disband the military committee and Crom'nen himself? Crom'nen wouldn't mind really. That would give him freedom to move about. Only problem is this: what gives the Jedi the authority to do this? Is this a threat? I have said over and again that I will gladly quit if that's what's best, but I really don't like being threatened, especially by an outside group. But this is exactly what I have been wondering about. Do the Jedi really see themselves as over the Republic? I'm talking more OOC than IC here. I don't like being told what we can do or can't do by another faction.

To me; it seemed like a suggestion that we remove the current military committee only to replace it with a more competent one, and that the character you primarily write be barred from taking up his office as Senator. Considering the simple fact that the current military committee failed to defend one of it's member worlds resulting in this tragedy, it's common sense that an overhaul is needed to ensure that such bloodshed does not happen again on Republic soil. It happens all the time when people are deemed unfit for duty. My reasoning behind this, is that the keyword 'Should' was used there. The Jedi are supposed to be acting in an advisory position within the Republic, thus if they are interested in helping us move forward as a faction, they should be more than welcome to voice their opinions, just as we have been welcomed to voice ours in the foundation of a new relationship with the Jedi.

Being honest, I think you read too far into his post in the hopes of starting another shitfest between our two factions on an OoC level. Personally, I'd suggest that you take a step back and leave it be. We are not being told what to do by another faction and they do not think of themselves as our betters. I believe they once considered us their equals until recent events, so I cannot blame them for slowly edging away from the Republic entirely as if I were a Jedi and in there shoes - that's exactly what I'd do - especially if a renowned Republic character admitted to driving the Mandalorian warmachine into the heart of the Empire. (Despite the fact it was already established they'd be going there anyways. That was Out of Character knowledge being mixed with In Character knowledge, so saying that here essentially means nothing and I am thankful that the Empire has been inactive as of late - they would have not taken kindly to such a revelation.)

Derrick, apparently you weren't paying attention. The military committee positioned a fleet to defend Ryloth. Three Jedi TOOK THE DAMNED FLEET. It wasn't our failure. That's not the fault of the military committee. That's what happens when a couple of players (not including Mahir) basically pirate our resources.

I'm not trying to start another shitfest. I'm trying to stop it. My character acted as a spy. He did his job. My actions were justifiable. I sent one enemy after another. That would be like sending Al Qaeda after Saddam instead of fighting them both.

Look guys, I'm sick of defending myself when my greatest crime is that I try. You guys have seen Cihlbar and Darma defend me on this board. But the truth is I've tried to be very diplomatic on this board, and I'm getting tired of feeling ganged up on, however unintentionally. Rawkill is a reasonable person, and I appreciate you being willing to edit your post. I feel like I get along with you well.

But I need a break from the bickering. I have fought to try to keep a struggling faction going, and instead I get accused of trying to kill it. I know that you guys are also trying to do what's best, but I just can't take this anymore. I'm either going to lose it and really start a fight with you guys, which I really don't want to do, or I'm going to get mad and quit entirely. So to prevent me from further losing my temper, I'm going to take a break for a while. I'll give Cihl and Ludo my email so they can contact me if I'm needed, but I'm going to be gone for at least a week or so.

Try not to celebrate my absence too much.

Cihlbar, I am arriving in orbit soon. Rodia will be ready to officially join the republic.

No one told us, or at least told me, why Adi was absent, so a lot of things were just put on hold for him to return and never resolved. If I had known sooner that he did not have Internet and would not be back right away, I would have contacted you directly, Ice. Sorry about that. But I haven't been active here myself in 3+ months so I'm not going to even try to answer for what's happened recently (or not happened).

Moving forward, I think the Republic needs to take the IC step of establishing a relationship with the current IC leadership of Honoghr. I would like to see them become a Republic world, because I view the Republic as a largely OOC alliance with many IC differences and even disagreements. But it's their decision and theirs alone, and we have nothing to gain by getting upset if they say no. I fully support whatever decision their leadership makes.

I agree it's unlikely (and I need someone to provide the Cliff Notes on what I've missed), but we should at least make them an ally from an IC perspective. Right now, according to Ice (and I have no reason to doubt her), we have no relationship at all with them.

Im responding out of cold professional necessity. And I will wrap my response to Zion in here as well. I am far from thinking that us kids who don't know how to get along in there own backyard and share our own toys (or even agree on what toys we even own) are the almighty or the cool kids club. You guys are coming from an IC political view (of which, I was (Will) the jedi that ushered the jedi on Honoughr into the Order) and remember spcifically the planet being accepted into the Republic; to deny is a waste of time. Blame Adi for making moves, why not. And to say ' you never call' is not a good defense on we were never affiliated. 

But this kick that every wants to be independent is so chic right now, everything falls apart and people run for the hills. Leaving people like me to try and keep some semblance of anything that looks like Star Wars. Independent, in my literary opinion, is a cop out. I'm not trying to be mean, I am just not wasting time trying to find words. But it's your prerogative. All of this stupid bickering has worn me down trying to lead an organization that I never had any passion to lead to begin with. I stepped up and served a need for the community of writers. Have I done it well? Hell no, but I am still here trying to help people write together and streamline processes so that the "worldview" of our authors is shared (if Honoughr was a part of the Republic last week, but it isn't this week-- and someone still writes it that it is still there, it creates unnecessary conflict). So the planet is what I think the argument is about. I think the argument is about 'we don't want to play with you guys, you whine too much and you guys never asked to play with us any way.' 

If I had a personal gripe as an author, I say the JvS and it's authors have gotten waaaaaaaaaaay to particular with themselves, the characters, the factions they operate in etc. life is already too complicated. I'm not married to any of this. Mandalorians, for example, have clans with only one or two writers-- for whole clans! a handful of jedi factions, not affiliated with the Jedi Order; which forces the Jedi to either ignore their existence, or recognize rebelesque factions. etc. etc.

 I don't remember this last conversation we have had that anything to do with the next story arc we want to get involved in, who wants to be the lead authors, and what secondary story arcs we can tie them into-- that's what writing is. 

But I guess, until we establish who is still in and who is out, and how we relate to our allies, we can't have a worldview of which to write from. Those who are not in the know, without a shared worldview, you do not have the basic shared culture to even consider being affiliated. So on this point your right: how about everyone stop whining, stop thinking about yourselves, stop being hurt (and if you are hurt, take it up via PM---> then the Councilors (which i don't know why we have, really) ---> then the Whills). We all have Natural Rights that this structure was made to protect; use it. 

If you choose to respond to this statement and rebuke me because of it, I will not report you nor will I have anything to respond with. This is simply my opinion. 

What isn't my opinion is that we need to get back to yet another reconstruction of the Republic. Honoughr, if you have a story arc to suggest, by all means. I just don't need to read more pages about your independence on here. If you want it you got it; my only point is: I don't see how that helps us as writers. 

So, military council. looks like we need more volunteers. I will put up a post about asking for moitions to ratify Rodia and the Tion Cluster into the Republic. Anyone else need in officially? Past that, who else is willing to serve on the military Council? 

last time I checked, my NPC serves as a Grand Admiral, Darma chairs it as VC, we had one or 2 senators, sometimes a jedi (random usually, depending on the conflict). 

Once we got that figured out, I would also ask for another volunteer to help with the official economics of this faction and figure out what sort of defenses we can build. I know someone is going  to come to say "we already have this and that" but lets assume our fleets are in shambles. 

You're not sorry, so please refrain from using such a word in the future. I don't care how long you've been at work or if it was frustrating, you don't start swearing at fellow writers because you don't understand the angle they're approaching this situation from. It's disrespectful and childish. So if you seek to pursue this matter further, please be sure to act like an adult by not letting your emotions cloud your judgement.

Now, while I would usually follow such a infantile tirade up with all of my points easily collected into a single post, I'll refrain from beating a dead horse - like you all are with Honoghr - and bring them up In Character after Avaro, Vordaan, and I have been made officially apart of the Senate.