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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 7, 2013 19:09:11 GMT -8
Hello members of the Galactic Republic,
I was speaking with my fellow Imperial, Xeonon, and we decided that maybe its a good idea to do some roleplaying with the Galactic Republic. Sort of how the Imperial Remnant interacted, after the Bastion Accords, with the New Republic and the Galactic Alliance. Basically the idea is to renegotiate as well as reaffirm the Bastion Accords under the new leadership of the Imperial Remnant. Would be kind of cool.
Who likes this idea?
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Post by Chancellor Cihlbar on Aug 7, 2013 19:20:06 GMT -8
Sure, porque no. We are not at open war with the Remnant, send an emissary to meet with the Chancellor, and we can go from there? Or is there something specific you wanted in a storyline?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 7, 2013 19:42:21 GMT -8
Well, I wouldn't mind doing something more complex/specific to why the GR and IR meet up. I think we have had some encounters, I would have to ask Xeonon.
Otherwise, I would just have Nicademus come on a diplomatic mission to reaffirm and renegotiate the Bastion Accords (if necessary) with the Chancellor and the Senate
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Post by Chancellor Cihlbar on Aug 7, 2013 19:49:45 GMT -8
Well right now, the Senate is dealing with complex political issues and the IR can be introduced as economic allies to help ease the burden, and rise the tension and wearyness of the Senate (being indebted to the Imps might not sit well with some choice Senators), and the Mandos are not yet an Imp issue, i don't think. But if the IR sees it that way, far be it for me to say otherwise.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 7, 2013 19:56:55 GMT -8
We both are neighbors, literally speaking. The IR is centered mainly in the Deep Core (I think we have every planet except Tython and Byss if memory serves correct) with a few planets out there (Thule, Bothuwai (?) and Sullust I think). We always had plans to move into the Core region, but sadly those are on hold due to many of our active members going bye bye for now.
It could create some interesting political intrigue with those who do not feel they want to be even 'friends' with one another. The IR is trying to stimulate its economy and rebuild its small military forces. We have the necessary planets to do so, just a matter of tapping into their full potential.
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Post by Xeonon Solomon on Aug 8, 2013 5:50:08 GMT -8
Okay so our interactions have been very limited. When Adulph was on whatever planet it was when he pledged all his worlds to the Republic Xeo was there. It was only for a short period of time and I left for a couple of IC and OOC reasons. It was said aloud that Ad knew what the IR was and what it was up to, Gabe and I asked for you to ignore that little bit due to it being a secret and Adulphs reasons kind of were not based in truth. Other interactions are with Adi and myself on Raxus, we had a little rumble for shits and giggles and I have worked with Diamonte a few times.
That being said on Curolag just before the crash we were writing a massive political unrest type thing. Word of Imperials in the Deep Core had spread there and the Sons of the Empire ( I think that was the name) were in the process of removing a massive mining corporation. It would have ultimately led to the succession of the world as we were taking victory through peace stance like the Fels.
If you are looking for the economic burden then its a good thing Aargua is a massive banking world which could be helpful towards a bail out plan type thing. However its real worth is in its mineral wealth. The Mandos are an Imp issue. The Imperial Knights have been actively recalled to the Deep Core except for special missions in a bid to not draw attention. I however have full intentions of including the Knights in the war.
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Post by Crom'nen on Aug 8, 2013 6:24:57 GMT -8
Even if the Imps aren't in active war with the Mandos, the team up makes sense, since the Mandos will go directly after the IR after the GR is finished. It's like What's-his-face teaming with Han Solo to take out the Iron Fist. If we're reinforcing each other in battle, they would never be able to track our troop movements enough to respond. And if they have a response force, then the other can do a hit-and-fade run on a Mando world, forcing them to withdraw to protect their homeworld or colony.
Has anyone else read Sun Tsu?
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Post by Titan on Aug 8, 2013 8:53:36 GMT -8
*Jumps in to recognize the Art of War* Great book  Though what you're describing resembles more Miyamoto Musashi's Five Rings, specifically the Fire Scroll's Upset (or even Coming Up Against Corners), while the Larger Force is Sticking Tight. When the Smaller Force has done enough damage, or encounters too heavy of a resistance, they then slip back and rejoin the Larger Force to Stomp the Sword. Wreaks havoc with their organization and tactics. Sorry to jump in, just those kinds of books are a passion of mine. Anyways, carry on *Jumps back out* |
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 8, 2013 9:34:35 GMT -8
Even if the Imps aren't in active war with the Mandos, the team up makes sense, since the Mandos will go directly after the IR after the GR is finished. It's like What's-his-face teaming with Han Solo to take out the Iron Fist. If we're reinforcing each other in battle, they would never be able to track our troop movements enough to respond. And if they have a response force, then the other can do a hit-and-fade run on a Mando world, forcing them to withdraw to protect their homeworld or colony. Has anyone else read Sun Tsu? History is my passion, especially Asian history (majoring in history and minoring in Asian studies). I have read the Art of War way too many times. The book I have has another Art of War made by Sun Tzu's descendant, Sun Bin, who was maimed and blinded but served well as a tactician and general during the Warring States. And am trying to finish a massive book called the Seven Military Classics of Ancient China. You do make an interesting idea for a cooperative force. I mean look at plenty of battles during the Yuuzhan Vong War. Even though the Imps held out, the Galactic Alliance still needed Imperial arsenals to end the war and it really helped boost their military power. Same during the Second Galactic Civil War, when Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus, gained full cooperation from the Imperial Remnant and was granted Stormtrooper corps, armadas and even a couple SSDs. It helped him at the Battle of Foerost and left him a sizable and flexible military force to crush the Confederation and counter those of the GA that separated from him. Again, all thanks to Imperial arsenals. |
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Post by Vice-Chancellor Darma on Aug 8, 2013 12:18:41 GMT -8
This will be an interesting twist for Darma, he'll be cautiously accepting when/if the idea is floated to him IC. Quick note, I'll have spotty access to a computer for the next two weeks or so, work around me as you have to.
His two main points are:
1) Accepting Fresia
2) Passing the defense bill, or something similarly effective.
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Post by Crom'nen on Aug 8, 2013 18:24:00 GMT -8
See? Hit and fade: like Titan just did there.
I was about ready to ask if we should vote on Fresia first. I was thinking about having Belf'ima say that, since my first post seconded the motion. Cihlbar, want to do that first?
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Post by Chancellor Cihlbar on Aug 8, 2013 20:57:36 GMT -8
I could, are we done with the sparring match. Then I can bring the session back to order.
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Post by Crom'nen on Aug 9, 2013 3:58:40 GMT -8
Done? I hope not. But there's no point in holding Fresia in suspense while we debate another issue entirely. Let's hold that vote, then we can get back to the debate, and Fresia can join in!
Wait, I thought the motion on the floor was to require member states to have fleets, not to raise taxes.
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Post by Dav Man'Sell on Aug 9, 2013 4:12:16 GMT -8
My understanding too was essentially that. Darma?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 9, 2013 7:45:32 GMT -8
Well I guess I will just have Nicademus make a call onto Coruscant sometime then. Probably have a small meeting with Xeonon IC about the possibility of a diplomatic mission to Coruscant and go from there.
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Post by Chancellor Cihlbar on Aug 9, 2013 8:25:16 GMT -8
Li honestly lost track of what the motion was stating. I will edit later tonight reflecting.
Still, it is obvious that the motion will need amending or failing.
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Post by Chancellor Cihlbar on Aug 9, 2013 8:36:08 GMT -8
I reread the motion, it is basically a levy motion and can be considered a tax (giving 80+ points of each fleet or smaller worlds paying RSD to build for them), is it a big deal to leave the post? I will edit if I have to, but it could he easier just to move on.
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Post by Ander Tagira on Aug 9, 2013 9:15:30 GMT -8
Nicademus: If you really want to enjoy some reading on modern asian war heroes, read anything written BY Mao Tse-Tung. Aside from launching the largest military movement and propaganda campaign in human history, he employed many counter-insurgency tactics that weren't officially noticed until the American military developed COIN strategy for use in the Middle-East over the last 15 years.
Fascinating stuff, Tse-Tung.
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Post by Crom'nen on Aug 9, 2013 12:31:38 GMT -8
Cihl, I don't think the motion specified that you had to buy from RDS, just the explanation offered that they were willing to work with people on compliance.
In the mean time, I think it's safe to say the motion wouldn't carry the majority needed, if I've done my job at all.
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Post by Chancellor Cihlbar on Aug 9, 2013 18:38:53 GMT -8
My interpretation of the motion definitely does not read "everyone needs to build a fleet"
It most definitely says "everyone pitches in some ships to the greater armada" and furthermore "if you don't have ships, pay RSD to build them (or someone similar, but RSD is directly named in the motion)."
Don't look at me, that is basically what the motion says.
But let it die, or amend it. It matters not to me, but that is almost certainly how the motion reads as stated.
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Though what you're describing resembles more Miyamoto Musashi's Five Rings, specifically the Fire Scroll's Upset (or even Coming Up Against Corners), while the Larger Force is Sticking Tight. When the Smaller Force has done enough damage, or encounters too heavy of a resistance, they then slip back and rejoin the Larger Force to Stomp the Sword. Wreaks havoc with their organization and tactics. Sorry to jump in, just those kinds of books are a passion of mine. Anyways, carry on 
