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Post by Devlin Dewe on Nov 17, 2013 18:26:46 GMT -8
I agree, and I can't believe I'm saying this, with the not lady Sinistra. Mostly we gather IC for meetings or defending our homes. We need more reason to come together than war or bureaucracy. Whether it's training or something else, I think it'd be nice to have a gathering of Jedi that doesn't devolve into craziness or a library falling down around my ears.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the wars, the fighting, and the politics...well, maybe the politics; but there's more to the Jedi. Maybe not for an old hermit, however, we're not all hermits, yet.
Whether we use the 3 councils below the HC or not; they'd give us a reason to talk with other Jedi, even if just to confirm a mission or debrief from a mission. And that's a start. I mean, in my opinion, we don't need more NPCs. We need more PCs coming together for more than war.
In a way, I think Will's right. I thought we were consolidating, cutting down on Jedi worlds. That's a way to bring Jedi together. And it's on the right track; but it's not the only way. It may not be the best way, though it might...a fight we could have endlessly.
The main point is: there are fewer Jedi writers/PCs/whatever than there were and we need to be more proactive at coming together and writing great SLs. Or just coming together. However briefly.
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Post by Devlin Dewe on Nov 17, 2013 18:32:19 GMT -8
There are plenty of reasons to go to other places. - Travel for training, seeking an instructor better suited than you to teach your Padawan a skill/ability/talent (not exclusive to Padawans)
- Meeting for a mission debriefing; whether before or after a mission
- Maybe you just want to sip Tarisian ale and watch the sun set with a friend
- War/battles/skirmishes
- Meetings
- Visiting the Senate
And that was just in a few moments; by my onesy. I'm sure as a collective, we can think of plenty more.
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Post by Jedi Knight Mahir on Nov 17, 2013 20:41:41 GMT -8
As information spreads about the activities of the Mandolorians, I think most of us would be smart enough IC to realize that something isn't working anymore. The great Jedi Order will have lost Yavin, and probably Carida and Ossus will report substantial losses, even if only structurally. That might be enough to coerce enough of us into gathering together, if only to share/gain knowledge, pass along skills, and in general provide a solid defensive front for the mandolorians to break themselves on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 21:50:40 GMT -8
May i be the first to Introduce the new council Master AdiMaster Ael JadeMaster Aerandir CalmcacilMaster Eli VandalMaster Mike FrantzCongratulations to you 5 and to everyone who entered their name to be considered. The fact that no single writer received zero votes means that everyone on the list was considered someone trustworthy enough to lead this order. We are siblings in duty. May the Force be with you all
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Post by Kay'li Raganella on Nov 17, 2013 21:55:13 GMT -8
Wait, Mike won? There goes the neighborho---. Actually, scratch that. You can have him. Love you Mikey.
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Post by Eremiel on Nov 18, 2013 3:29:03 GMT -8
Congratulations people. May the Force be with you. As for you Will, I think your idea is a sound one. But it will take adjustment. We can't cut out people's nicotine supply without withdraws.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 18, 2013 5:11:59 GMT -8
Wait, Mike won? There goes the neighborho---. Actually, scratch that. You can have him. Love you Mikey. I know what my first order of business is *hands a certain writer an eviction notice*
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Post by Devlin Dewe on Nov 18, 2013 5:21:16 GMT -8
Well, it seems Will isn't the only one not re-elected. I'll just watch from the sidelines... ...That just means there's more time for me to do hermit things. Like meditating, living off the land in the jungle, meditating, becoming one with the natural world, meditating. There's a lot on my plate. Clearly. It seems, I would've had a better chance if my name started with A. Huh. Who knew? Congratulations to the new HC. Kids, both new and old. Guess we'll see what new directions lie in store for the Jedi Order. Good luck. Working with Mike and Adi (without Will to strong-arm them and bring them into line ), you're going to need it.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 18, 2013 5:52:57 GMT -8
I'll behave... mean... I think my shots are up t date.... but if not... well... that just makes it more interesting. On a side note you aren't allowed to go back to being a full hermit. We still expect you to do things with the rest of us. I'll be more than happy to delegate my work to you if it would make you feel better.
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Post by Lord Sinistra on Nov 18, 2013 6:32:15 GMT -8
Forgive me, and this is just me spitballing here, as your characters and all, but it seems to be a rather odd situation for people to want to have a greater centralized Order and have their characters go off and be hermits. Kinda defeats the purpose of unification, doesn't it?
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 18, 2013 6:41:48 GMT -8
Well it's a good thing we have the most involved Hermits in the history of hermits
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Post by Raylia Venci on Nov 18, 2013 8:06:33 GMT -8
Okay, so here's a breakdown from canon (not that anyone's interested): (For those who don't mind a lot of words in a post, continue. For the majority, though, the Wookiepedia links are for you.) Traditionally each Council is made up of Jedi Masters The High Council12 members Guide the Order Served as an advisory body for the office of Supreme Chancellor of the Republic The Council of First Knowledge5 members Oversee Academies/Praxeums and the Archives Responsible for eradicating any trace of Sith teachings and their artifacts in the galaxy Work with/lead the Jedi ShadowsThe Council of Reassignment5 members Lead the Jedi Service Corps Agricultural Corps Medical Corps Led by the Circle of Healers Educational Corps Overseen by the Librarian's Assemby (though apparently also reports directly to the Council of First Knowledge) Led by the Chief Librarian Exploration Corps Made up of Jedi Ambassadors, Aces, and ResearchersMonitor Jedi Initiates and Padawans, and work with those who do not pass the Trials The Council of Reconciliation5 members Negotiate with political factions both inside and outside the Galactic Republic Work closely with the Republic Diplomatic Corps Served the Jedi by passing judgement on those who fell to the dark side The Jedi Watchman are and extension of this council Watchmen are trusted to make their own decisions without checking with the Council of Reconciliation or the High CouncilI'd mention how long each member traditionally held office; but since we've decided to hold elections every year, it's moot. A PC on the HC could potentially also be one of the other 3 councils in canon...but we don't have to go that route, if that's not how the main of the Order wishes to do it. Personally, (not that anyone cares) I'd almost like to see enough Jedi fill these roles without double dipping. Also, we could wave the Master requirement for other councils, if there's enough interest. Going along with Dev's stuff from here, we could use these councils IC as a way to drum up some RP between sites and encourage more interaction between the various academies and temples. Let's talk about how this can help draw people together.
Council of First Knowledge are responsible for the archives, libraries and education of all the temples. They also work with the Shadows to find and destroy Sith artifacts and knowledge before it falls into Sith hands. If you are interested in this council, you should be willing to travel to the other temples to assess their training programs and the education of padawans, or to seek out lost temples to recover archival information and artifacts. If you are a Shadow, these people are your lifeline to the Order. They point you where you go. The Shadows will naturally answer to their leader, who ever that is, but perhaps that leader should hold a position on the CoFK. (If they want, of course.)
Council of Reassignment is in charge of Agricultural Corp, Medical Corps, Libraries and Trials. Since there is some overlap with CoFK, let's take out the libraries part, leaving agri, medical corp and organizing trials. I would say those who want to be involved with this should be willing to travel among the temples to assess padawans and knights for trials to advance. They should be willing to deal with medical RP both at the dedicated hospital on Honoghr as well infirmaries at various other temples who might be treating casualties from the Mando war or refugees from the Empire. Let's also through the tech people in with this.
Council of Reconciliation is focused on diplomacy between Jedi worlds and the Republic, but I also see them dipping into diplomacy between furure Empire worlds and the Jedi/Republic. They would handle the judicial portion of the Order, dealing those who had fallen to the darkside. I see them taking a more open stand against the Empire in the coming Cold War plot, where Shadow don't really care about the politics of the matter, just that the Sith don't accumulate more lost knowledge. The Watchmen report to this council and same as with the Shadows, if the lead wishes to hold a seat on the CoRecon, then they can help disseminate missions and intel to the other watchmen.
Now these are just suggestions and all these councils would/could take direction from the HC and also work with each other to forward the goals of the Order as a whole. I don't think we need a member of the HC on each one. This will help give others some incentive to step up and not stretch the HC too thin.
I'm thinking if people like this, we have signups for what people are interested in here, 3 people to a council, Master rank not required. But if you sign up, you should expect to travel around the boards and interact and come up with some plots for more than just yourself. Come up with stuff where you need other people to help you. Or where you put something together for them like making trials for a padawan to be a knight. Or a knight to be a master. Or help a war ravaged planet put their lives back together. Just because the battles we fought IC in the Mando War were Yavin, Carida, Ossus and Kuat doesn't mean we can't make it that other places were affected by NPC battles like something went down on Shili or Hapes. Send aid. Send tech people to reestablish communications, send watchmen to help coordinate relief efforts with the Senate, send medical corps people to help the wounded.
After the signups are full, the new HC could "appoint" the new councils IC at the meeting and those appointments last until we elect a new HC next year.
Thoughts, questions, concerns?
PS Thought of something else.
Just like the HC, these councils don't have to be tied to Coruscant as long as you keep in contact IC with the other members of the council you sign up for.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 18, 2013 8:52:28 GMT -8
Sounds fantastic. Big shout out to Ray/Sin for getting all that spoken of and all that jazz with all those words and things.
So now that you know what it is if you would like to be involved with one of the councils go ahead and sign up below
Council of First Knowledge 1. 2. 3.
Council of Reassignment 1. 2. 3.
Council of Reconciliation 1. 2. 3.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 8:55:15 GMT -8
My question is, will this be addressed in the IC meeting of the Masters after their diplomatic re-assigning of the HC? Because as a Shadow, I plan on doing just that. Investigating, locating, close width and destroying enemy artifacts while behind enemy lines is something I can accommodate. Alongside being an arbitrary investigator as a diplomatic aid for those who need him. The usual Jedi duties in the CoFK. I take Coruscant will be the meeting place when we all feel the summons for these assignments?
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Post by Raylia Venci on Nov 18, 2013 8:55:46 GMT -8
Council of First Knowledge 1. Raylia Venci 2. 3.
Council of Reassignment 1. 2. 3.
Council of Reconciliation 1. 2. 3.
Thanks Mike.
I guess that would depend on how everyone wants to move with it. The HC can announce the appointments but then the RP of the various councils depends on where they all want to meet up. Certainly all the masters on Coruscant right now but since I think anyone at knight or above can be on the other three, we can meet up other places if it is easier on people.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 18, 2013 9:00:00 GMT -8
My question is, will this be addressed in the IC meeting of the Masters after their diplomatic re-assigning of the HC? Because as a Shadow, I plan on doing just that. Investigating, locating, close width and destroying enemy artifacts while behind enemy lines is something I can accommodate. Alongside being an arbitrary investigator as a diplomatic aid for those who need him. The usual Jedi duties in the CoFK. I take Coruscant will be the meeting place when we all feel the summons for these assignments? If signups are completed before the meeting is over then perhaps we will adress it in this meeting, if not.. well we will find time to do it.
As far as the other things the CoFK is in charge of assigning the shadows to do those things, the three of them don't have to do all the work (just for clarification)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 9:57:55 GMT -8
I was just stating my level of comfort. I don't think anyone wants to impose too much for someone to handle. Miralukans are wanderers and seers so it fits what he does.
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 18, 2013 11:41:45 GMT -8
As a Shadow, I'll do whatever I can in the best interests of the order. That said, I don't know where I stand on being actively involved with the other writers as of yet. Bear with me, I'm a stubborn old bastard.
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Post by Kay'li Raganella on Nov 18, 2013 13:44:23 GMT -8
Could I be a watchwoman and serve on the Council of Reconciliation at the same time?
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Post by Eremiel on Nov 18, 2013 14:09:18 GMT -8
I would probably join the Shadows if I was to join anything I would think.
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