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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 18:03:22 GMT -8
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Adi
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Post by Adi on Nov 15, 2015 18:03:45 GMT -8
Don't look my way....I'm not with these guys anymore.....LOL
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Aerandir Calmcacil
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Nov 15, 2015 18:04:05 GMT -8
Oh. You actually did that. What a jerk!
I'm here, of course, and my myriad NPCs/alts. Was considering seeing who was left, because it does seem like Jedi presence has been diminishing lately. Someone else, I WON'T SAY WHO, has done that for me, forcing my hand. Into... uh, replying, I guess.
hi
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The Shepherd
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Post by The Shepherd on Nov 15, 2015 18:06:14 GMT -8
I.
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Atton Kaelan
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Post by Atton Kaelan on Nov 15, 2015 18:06:43 GMT -8
Red Five Gold Leader Atton standing by!
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Post by Galaar Vhett on Nov 15, 2015 18:42:54 GMT -8
*Comes in drench from Jabiim's rain*
Present!
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Ghost
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Post by Ghost on Nov 15, 2015 21:34:21 GMT -8
My body is not ready.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 21:48:15 GMT -8
I Heed The Call...
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Post by Diamonte Tuhlute on Nov 15, 2015 22:40:43 GMT -8
Heeere roll, Heeeeeeree rollie rollie rollie.
honestly i don't know where i have monte in regards to alignment with the jedi order these days.
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Adelle Bastiel
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Post by Adelle Bastiel on Nov 16, 2015 10:37:24 GMT -8
Present, somewhere. Maybe not here. Or in this reality. But present nonetheless.
That counts for something right?
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Post by Jedi Knight Mahir on Nov 19, 2015 22:52:34 GMT -8
Here, sorta, will be attached to Honoghr for the foreseeable future.
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Picas Dixon
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Post by Picas Dixon on Nov 19, 2015 23:40:59 GMT -8
Dantooine Jedi here!
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Kel'Al Raganella
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Post by Kel'Al Raganella on Nov 28, 2015 21:22:00 GMT -8
hides in the shadows
I'm trying to untangle my storylines... but I'm slow lol
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Aerandir Calmcacil
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Nov 28, 2015 22:42:31 GMT -8
Alright. I've hesitated on this long enough. I'm biting the bullet and putting it out there.
I would like to propose Felucia as the new official "center" of our Jedi Order. I know, I'm a guy who's been sternly against the idea of "centralization" in the past in regards to the Order, so coming from me, this may seem a bit hypocritical, which is why I hesitated to even bring it up. Even before Belial's roll call a page back, I'd thought about it, but again, felt hesitant to do so.
Reason being? As of late, Felucia seems to be the most active branch of the Order, with the other major sites being practically abandoned. Yavin and Coruscant are all-but-abandoned, Corellia doesn't seem to be seeing much activity... and that's not to speak of the smaller branches that had been dwindling for some time. Of course, this doesn't apply to branches that consider themselves independent, such as Umgul or Honoghr... which technically doesn't make them branches but you know what I mean.
But with the numbers starting to dwindle a bit, I feel as though it would make the most sense if we bring all that we can into one place, if we want to continue to prosper. What does this mean for the other known locations?
For Yavin IV, perhaps we can say that it was too badly damaged by the Mando Crusade, and that items and artifacts were salvaged, but otherwise it's in too great a state of disrepair to be used. That's simple enough, but Corellia and Coruscant are the tougher cookies. Because I don't want to be the one to say "You should probably let those go," not that anyone's clinging to Coruscant that I'm aware of. And that's not to mention the other smaller establishments.
Safe havens perhaps, meant for use in drastic measures? That's how I've held Belkadan for a while now. Talk to me people. I'm trying to help figure out what's best for the Order while we can, and perhaps in the long run make it more manageable and less confusing for any newcomers we may have to the site.
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Kel'Al Raganella
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Post by Kel'Al Raganella on Nov 28, 2015 22:53:13 GMT -8
In the old days, being the center meant painting a huge target on your planet for wanton and unnecessary attacks, which is one main reason we put the center on Coruscant so that it could be the target (rather than one of the planets to which we were more personally connected). There were obviously also canon reasons for the center to be on Coruscant. But I don't think those reasons apply anymore, so I'm certainly not opposed to making some other location the center of our operations.
However, the flip side of this is that we Jedi have long been far too centralized in our operations, stacking many Jedi on a single planet when we should be spreading out and interacting with non-Jedi characters (PC and NPC) like the peacekeepers we are supposed to be. I have taken it upon myself to make Kel'Al into more of a wanderer, while using alts and NPCs to keep things operating on Corellia. I'm not prepared to say yet that I'm definitely back and active, because I don't want to say that and be wrong (again), but if I am back, I have definite plans for Corellia - and to operate beyond Corellia on whatever planet might need me.
I'm not sure consolidation is what we need. Maybe instead, we need to scale down the imagined size of our bases to something that reflects our numbers?
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Darth Belial
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Post by Darth Belial on Nov 28, 2015 23:45:12 GMT -8
No offense, but we're far past the old days. Spreading out hasn't worked for any RP group, nor has any that have been forcibly constrained to a single planetary thread. I know, because I speak from experience upon all sides of the spectrum. Though my character isn't Jedi, as a writer, I think it would be a good idea to have an established base of operations that the Jedi could launch their peacekeeping missions from. Thus, in catering to both sides of the spectrum, and allowing people who've always wanted to write Jedi a place to do so with people that will respond within a decent time frame, the Jedi Order can rebuild and restore itself to glory, far better than the olden days.
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Aerandir Calmcacil
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Nov 28, 2015 23:48:12 GMT -8
I mean, having one centralized location doesn't mean we can't still be individually branching out into the galaxy. Having one main location would just make it easier to have a place to be sent from/report back to though, wouldn't it? GEE THANKS FOR SAYING IT BETTER MARK
Also I would like to get it out there right now, I'm willing to talk this out and not force this on anyone, but at the same time I want to see what's best for the Jedi as a whole as of now. I'll accommodate as best as I can, and I have no designs on Grand Master title or even instating one; I'm just trying to spearhead this OOC is all. Though we will need leadership, but first we need to establish a direction for us as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 1:22:07 GMT -8
As someone who has multiple times proposed various ideas, most of which did involve us operating out of various locations, I can tell you now it does not fukin work. Consolidation is exactly what we need right now, especially since there is what, 5 main active Jedi writers at this time, and a handful of "regulars" who show up from time to time. As Aer and Mark have said, we can still branch out, travel around, and do stuff we should actually be doing, but havent done for a long time. Honestly, this is the same issue that keeps coming up whenever we suggest changes. People are attached to their locations and change scares people. But you know what, just because we are centralizing, does not necessarily mean we are abandoning these other locations and saying "no, you have to write here and not there". As was explained, it's about organizing ourselves so we can actually get our shit together and everyone can get involved in improving the Order as a whole. We have individualised ourselves soo long, that people have plans for their own Temples that might not necessarily do anything to help the Order as a whole, and when someone suggests something to hopefully improve the Order, we shun it and bog it down with months of discussions in the hope that people will forget about it or be so afraid they wont want to do anything.
Honestly, the fact we still have seperate usergroups for the various Jedi Academies speaks a great deal to just how "united" we really are. I mean, we are meant to be a united Jedi Order, that was the whole point of the merger of the various academies a couple years ago, was it not?
as far as leadership goes, we need to decide if it'll be either a group of NPC's or a group of PC's and stick with it. Honestly, I think a lot of people were up for an NPC council, but honestly, I can't say I've ever seen us act as if that change was ever made, and instead, have still been acting like the Council is made of PC's, and since it seems to work well for our group of writers, I'm in favour of just leaving it, and promoting a couple extra people to the council IC. And instead of bogging things down IC, I say we skip getting everyone together to RP out voting, cause that never ends well, we usually spend months waiting for people to arrive, then months having speeches, then months waiting for someone to announce the result. Instead, one post, over and done with.
As for the existing temples, treat them like outposts. People might be permanently positioned there, or return there more often, rather than travelling out to Felucia to receive new orders depending upon the situation, but otherwise, Felucia would be the heart of Jedi operations. As it stands IC, Rawkill is trying to figure out which Jedi Academy is letting someone send out Anonymous style messages to threaten the Sith and find out what this attack on Korriban is all about (yeah, my timeline is a little behind, sue me). By centralizing, we can get everyone on the same page much more easily (a fact which will be helped by the archive upgrades I'm working on).
Ya know, I made a comment in chat the other week about how the Republic needed a restart because of how paralysed it had become from it's own lack of inactivity. It's a similar thing with the Jedi, we have become so paralysed by own our division, that people don't want to try deal with it all. But by consolidating our base of power to one location, we'll be able to provide people some unity, so that they wont be like "which Temple should I choose? I'm worried if I choose the wrong one, a lot of people wont like me...."
As an aside. Kel, what exactly would it involve? and what would scaling down the imagined size of our bases achieve? A temple's still a temple, whether it's the size of a fortress, or just a couple storey tall building.....
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Picas Dixon
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Post by Picas Dixon on Nov 29, 2015 5:26:45 GMT -8
I'm up for it. Dantooine could be a Jedi outpost.
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Post by Stevan Stormro on Nov 29, 2015 6:44:37 GMT -8
If I may interject with a suggestion, one way way in which you might be able to handle having a more centralized order while still allowing people to be out and about in the galaxy, even living at other outposts, could be to use the already canon holo-tech. In the movies we see the Jedi Council meeting multiple times where multiple members are present via holo rather than in person, and I have seen this approach work well on other Star Wars roleplay sites as well. That would allow people who are on the council to be "present" at the central location while still allowing them to be stationed at whatever outpost or location they are currently living/working at.
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