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Post by Crystaall Sehefadu on Aug 5, 2014 12:19:05 GMT -8
Well, if the Jedi Council is so willing to let one person enter their archives, delete any files on that person and then attempt to erase other files that the Jedi could use IF the New Empire was to attack, then I'd say the Council would need new management. Crystaall wants her past erased from Jedi knowledge, including anything that they could use.
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Post by Ice Matango on Aug 5, 2014 13:05:19 GMT -8
I see. Well, while I may agree that the Jedi do need more leadership, I suppose my next question would be: why would she even worry about it at all when the Jedi (to my knowledge anyway) have never mentioned her IC, at least not in a long while? How does she even know there are any existing archives on her? Does she plan on trying to eliminate anyone she's ever came in contact with, also? Because, you know, they could just tell the Jedi, or whoever is involved, about her and BOOM....there's more info on her. ALSO....why does she need to erase any battle plans? I'm just trying to understand this a little better so don't take my questioning too personal. 
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Post by Crystaall Sehefadu on Aug 5, 2014 13:49:01 GMT -8
She is supposed to have met a lot of people in the Rebel Alliance, was a squadron leader in several starfighter battles and even has the title of Jedi Knight from several years ago. Her ideas of erasing battle plans is because she feels the Jedi should not be involved in the next war, should there be one. She fears if any conflict happens with the Jedi and the Galactic Empire, the galaxy would be civil unrest all across the galaxy again, and she doesn't want that. In these thoughts, she is naive, and will not listen to reason. Her hope is that the Galactic Empire doesn't go for full out war, and that the Jedi will take their time to recover their plans and that with the Jedi having no information on her, they won't be able to find her, should she fall to the Dark Side again.
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Post by Ael Jade on Aug 5, 2014 14:01:26 GMT -8
Hey, I know the Jensaarai aren't well known, and I'm not here because of them. I just want to say that I have Crystaall on Coruscant to delete several of the archive files the Jedi have on her, including her past involvements with the order. I'm willing to RP this with anyone, but I must warn you that she is determined to have her files erased, as well as others. She refuses to let the Jedi have any record on her. Her strongest ability in the Force is to sense everything around her, and her skill in combat is quick and devastating. I will accept nothing but the best from whoever accepts this challenge. If no one does, I'm going to assume the Jedi normally allow their archives to be hacked and erased? I think perhaps we've left the main topic, which is why I return to this post. Firstly, right off the bat you've put forth a Closed SL set in stone with yourself being invincible (just from this post, but also your profile in which you claim to be a twenty-three year old Jensaarai with the skills of a master Jedi of decades of experience, not to even get into the implausible armor). The last three sentences of your post in particular look like a case of baiting, and even an attempt to bully the Jedi into writing with you---or else. This is very bad form. Secondly, given that Crystaall Sehefadu was only within the Order until age five, at which point Order 66 was enacted, it is highly likely that the only "personnel file" the Order would have on her is a brief "Crystaall Sehefadu--initiate/padawan--age five--Order 66--deceased/presumed dead" summary. At least up until recently when she was involved on Yavin IV---at which point there would be something more, however, that would not necessarily have been correlated with her prior experience within the Jedi Order. While it is perhaps feasible (given what Rawkill mentioned earlier) that you could delete your own files (though highly unlikely given what is technologically feasible today in the real world), why would you want to do so? This would irrevocably attract the attention of the Jedi Order to yourself. Unless you wanted to take up Ice's suggestion and invincibly kill off everyone who knows Crystaall in character? To my knowledge this would at least be Alexis Karidian, Diamonte Tuhlute, Rawkill, and anyone else who was involved on Yavin IV. Now, there is the proposed deletion of all files relating to Naboo and the Jensaarai--- again, why? If you don't want to be noticed or have anyone aware of you, why would you want to attract the kind of high level attention that such an action would garner? (Even in the best case scenario.) Currently, as far as I'm aware, Crystaall is known only as she has been involved with GALSAF/Ander/Kuat/Yavin IV. Thirdly, what about the files GALSAF has on Crystaall? Fourthly, seems like a Sithy way to go about things. I daresay the Empire has some pretty nice files on what happened at Kuat. While there could potentially be a storyline in all this, from your initial post it seems to be an attempt to needle the Jedi Order as a whole rather than ignite a positive discussion. |
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Post by Ashrah on Aug 5, 2014 14:16:13 GMT -8
I also would like to point out, that any Beskar armour has to have the permission of the ME to have been obtained, and smithed IC by a proper Mando Smith.
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Aug 5, 2014 14:49:49 GMT -8
Which means you have to get the metal from a supplier first (which I happen to be the only one). I don't remember selling any [/lightly joking]. Well that or you have to set up a different RP*, but again you need the OOC permission first.
*such as: killing a mando & stealing their suit (& dealing with the problems of an suit not crafted personally for you); stealing some ore, forging the 'permission slips' & getting a smith to make a suit for you (& having the MMC hunt you down for theft); or something like that.
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Crystaall Sehefadu
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Post by Crystaall Sehefadu on Aug 5, 2014 15:57:58 GMT -8
I must apologize if I've edged a few nerves. I'm a little bored, and I haven't done any RP in quite a while with things being slow. This was an attempt to try and get myself back in. Throughout my years of experience in JvS, no one has gone ahead and corrected me on my armor (which I have at least 4 years of experience with this environment) I must say that this was my worst attempt at trying to organize a closed SL. I want to first state that her armor is not used on average and is meant for closed SL's that are put in the storyline section only, and not the open areas of JvS, unless it needs to be. Secondly, I have to say I'm a bit angry with the way I've seen the 'higher up' Jedi run things. Which is why I so naively put in that small tidbit of a threat. I've been on edge for a while, and I need to cool down, but I think I was in too much of a rush to get in an RP I decided to do something rash and irresponsible. In that case, I extremely apologize to all of you. Perhaps I should start over and explain why Crystaall would delete any files the Jedi have.
Crystaall's intention is to delete any files that the Jedi could have on her. She suspects the Jedi to also have records of historic battles that happened during the Galactic Civil War against the Rebel Alliance and The Galactic Empire. With her involvement in the Rebel Alliance, she believes anything the Jedi have almost all the records on her battles and doesn't want her involvement known. She also wants to delete data about Order 66, due to its traumatic effect on her life, she believes no one should have its knowledge. As for any other records, her small servitude on Yavin IV and her appointment to Knighthood is another record she wishes to delete. Her title as a minor royal of Naboo, also classifies that planet as her homeworld to anyone's knowledge, so she intends to delete all files of her family ever living there, including important data about Naboo's Imperial Invasion. I want to put it plainly: Crystaall is in fear that she will turn to the Dark Side, and believes that no one will be able to help her turn back when it happens. In her current state, she is in fear of everything and everyone. This is making her extremely cautious and somewhat naive. In this sense, she has almost gone over the edge of her role as a Jensaarai. She believes she is in the right with her doing and believes it can be accomplished flawlessly.
Reality: I know Crystaall is supposed to be strong, but in this SL, she is supposed to be weaker, naive and overconfident. I want her to get over-powered, and to be outwitted. I want her to see defeat in the face. This SL is to show how quickly she can go over the edge of Light to Dark, and hopefully have the Jedi turn her back. I want to follow this, and I know it seems partially ridiculous to WANT my character defeated, but I need inspiration. And knowing that my character, no matter what she does, will not succeed is something not many have the chance to do. I do not intend to have her actually delete files or anything of the like, meaning: She has already hit the point of the Dark Side, but doesn't believe it. Believing that she is still someone following the Light Side is driving her darker side to overtake her. I know this sounds a bit much, but hopefully, I've solved the issue for my request of this storyline in the Jedi Temple on Corsucant.
(As for GALSAF, she believes that they don't have much to take her down with the mindset she is in, nor would Tagira have any good info, unless he should ask her squad about her)
As for my armor, as I stated before, no one has ever called me out on my armor, nor her prosthetic limbs. I've never seen a complaint from another user, nor have I ever had a Whill tell me that what I have is wrong. If we must go over my armor, can we do so without just flat out saying the necessary requirements? I know rules here are needed, but I've never broken one, hopefully.
Once again I extremely apologize. Didn't intend for an uproar. Maybe I'm as overconfident as my own character :/ (A problem I will fix, trust me)
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Post by Ashrah on Aug 5, 2014 16:27:27 GMT -8
If her armour is for Closed Sl's only, no worries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 16:34:16 GMT -8
I also would like to point out, that any Beskar armour has to have the permission of the ME to have been obtained, and smithed IC by a proper Mando Smith. Which means you have to get the metal from a supplier first (which I happen to be the only one). I don't remember selling any [/lightly joking]. Well that or you have to set up a different RP*, but again you need the OOC permission first. *such as: killing a mando & stealing their suit (& dealing with the problems of an suit not crafted personally for you); stealing some ore, forging the 'permission slips' & getting a smith to make a suit for you (& having the MMC hunt you down for theft); or something like that. really, neither of you noticed the fact that I am living on Yavin? I fulfil the IC Mando Smith requirement. Also, I don't believe seeing anywhere that OOC, someone had to get permission from the ME. Having read the regulations, the only requirements ever put down were that Beskar had to be acquired from MandalMotors, or acquired from a legitimate RP source. The latter of which is true in this case, ie: RP showing the collection of salvaged beskar left over from the attack on Yavin IV. |
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Post by Ice Matango on Aug 5, 2014 20:58:23 GMT -8
Okay, first off....I believe Goran is correct about the beskar "rules". I think it was OOC amongst some of the Mando's the "unwritten rules" about beskar. I could be totally wrong about that though, but since the actual site/council rules, and OOC planning boards, from the old site are inaccessible at the moment, I can't be absolutely sure.
Secondly, the only "higher up" Jedi (meaning being on the Jedi Council IC) involved in this particular discussion is Ael Jade. While I have several Jedi/lightsided characters, I am in no way in a position of power within the Jedi Order itself. I am simply an interested member that reads the OOC threads but doesn't always post on them. I found this particular discussion interesting because quite honestly I was thinking to myself "This person is rather cocky about their abilities and the way they go about trying to get people involved in a storyline." - Don't take that too personal, I tend to be suspicious of everyone.
Thirdly, the SL is a decent idea - even if it was introduced in a rather questionable way.
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Post by Crystaall Sehefadu on Aug 5, 2014 21:59:11 GMT -8
Yea.... I'm a cocky kid. Should try and fix it someday  I really did go about this the wrong way. I really should take caution when I go about proposing my ideas. |
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Post by Ice Matango on Aug 6, 2014 10:50:27 GMT -8
Hehehe, cockiness aside (because that can be worked on later) the SL is still salvageable. If this is what IC Crystaal is dead set on doing, then the best thing to do is open a friendly line of communication right here on the OOC board. And from your apology a few posts back, I'd say you're willing to open that line anew with a better mindset and more willingness to work with the Coruscant Jedi about trying to get into the archives. So live long and prosp....erm wrong story, sorry. 
All joking aside - you have already stated your plan in that same post I mentioned before (and more eloquently than in your initial post I might add) so I'd say keep along that line of planning and mindset and people will be more willing to work with you. Just my, fairly worthless, two cents on the matter. 
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Post by Will Sontir on Aug 6, 2014 19:21:46 GMT -8
I might encourage the logistics to be pushed to the Coruscant OOC thread, so as to open the thread to new ideas. People might check in and be like "this still?" Or "that again?"
Just a thought.
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Post by Ice Matango on Aug 6, 2014 22:16:13 GMT -8
And that's my cue to leave. Have fun, and good luck, Crystaal.......
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Aug 7, 2014 7:51:41 GMT -8
[han solo impersonation] Great kid. Don't get cocky: P
On second review, Icy is correct. Technically you just need an IC smith to do the work (with the smith checking that you got the metal legit). The need for approval of the Helm or two clan chiefs was something decided by the mandos as a check to prevent an IC mando smith from going rouge & selling to enemies of the ME. That said, reworking already forged Beskar is notoriously hard (at least one canon smith claimed it was impossible, & there is no evidence of it ever happening). However there are technically places other than the MMC that you could get the metal (stealthy mining a small portion from Mandalore, discovering a few ingots of unworked metal in an abandoned OR mando outpost or Imperial research base, etc), each with their own possible interesting SLs & possibility for RP.
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Post by Ael Jade on Aug 7, 2014 17:02:51 GMT -8
"Rouge!" Oh no, lookout! It's Revenge of the Lipsticks all over again! Not to mention the infamous "Rouge Squadron"...
Sorry, absolutely could not resist the attempt to lighten the mood a bit.
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Post by Will Sontir on Aug 9, 2014 0:49:11 GMT -8
Going Rouge. Wasn't that the title of Sarah Palin's first book?
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Aug 9, 2014 19:47:56 GMT -8
*insert Rouge the Bat joke from resident Sonic the Hedgehog nut*
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Post by Nemo on Aug 10, 2014 1:11:26 GMT -8
I must apologize if I've edged a few nerves. I'm a little bored, and I haven't done any RP in quite a while with things being slow. This was an attempt to try and get myself back in. Throughout my years of experience in JvS, no one has gone ahead and corrected me on my armor (which I have at least 4 years of experience with this environment) I must say that this was my worst attempt at trying to organize a closed SL. I want to first state that her armor is not used on average and is meant for closed SL's that are put in the storyline section only, and not the open areas of JvS, unless it needs to be. Secondly, I have to say I'm a bit angry with the way I've seen the 'higher up' Jedi run things. Which is why I so naively put in that small tidbit of a threat. I've been on edge for a while, and I need to cool down, but I think I was in too much of a rush to get in an RP I decided to do something rash and irresponsible. In that case, I extremely apologize to all of you. Perhaps I should start over and explain why Crystaall would delete any files the Jedi have. Crystaall's intention is to delete any files that the Jedi could have on her. She suspects the Jedi to also have records of historic battles that happened during the Galactic Civil War against the Rebel Alliance and The Galactic Empire. With her involvement in the Rebel Alliance, she believes anything the Jedi have almost all the records on her battles and doesn't want her involvement known. She also wants to delete data about Order 66, due to its traumatic effect on her life, she believes no one should have its knowledge. As for any other records, her small servitude on Yavin IV and her appointment to Knighthood is another record she wishes to delete. Her title as a minor royal of Naboo, also classifies that planet as her homeworld to anyone's knowledge, so she intends to delete all files of her family ever living there, including important data about Naboo's Imperial Invasion. I want to put it plainly: Crystaall is in fear that she will turn to the Dark Side, and believes that no one will be able to help her turn back when it happens. In her current state, she is in fear of everything and everyone. This is making her extremely cautious and somewhat naive. In this sense, she has almost gone over the edge of her role as a Jensaarai. She believes she is in the right with her doing and believes it can be accomplished flawlessly. Reality: I know Crystaall is supposed to be strong, but in this SL, she is supposed to be weaker, naive and overconfident. I want her to get over-powered, and to be outwitted. I want her to see defeat in the face. This SL is to show how quickly she can go over the edge of Light to Dark, and hopefully have the Jedi turn her back. I want to follow this, and I know it seems partially ridiculous to WANT my character defeated, but I need inspiration. And knowing that my character, no matter what she does, will not succeed is something not many have the chance to do. I do not intend to have her actually delete files or anything of the like, meaning: She has already hit the point of the Dark Side, but doesn't believe it. Believing that she is still someone following the Light Side is driving her darker side to overtake her. I know this sounds a bit much, but hopefully, I've solved the issue for my request of this storyline in the Jedi Temple on Corsucant. (As for GALSAF, she believes that they don't have much to take her down with the mindset she is in, nor would Tagira have any good info, unless he should ask her squad about her) As for my armor, as I stated before, no one has ever called me out on my armor, nor her prosthetic limbs. I've never seen a complaint from another user, nor have I ever had a Whill tell me that what I have is wrong. If we must go over my armor, can we do so without just flat out saying the necessary requirements? I know rules here are needed, but I've never broken one, hopefully. Once again I extremely apologize. Didn't intend for an uproar. Maybe I'm as overconfident as my own character :/ (A problem I will fix, trust me) |
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Post by Crystaall Sehefadu on Aug 11, 2014 18:18:48 GMT -8
I do want to go ahead with it, but I've recently got caught up with YouTube and Military enlistment. I can Pm you in the meantime... but i have to wait for things to settle. Apologies for my business.
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I really did go about this the wrong way. I really should take caution when I go about proposing my ideas.
