Jerek Morrows
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 18, 2013 18:56:31 GMT -8
I'm a fan of the idea of exclusivity of membership, as well.
Also, if I weren't clear, I think that precluding Shadows from council of First Knowledge membership due to the occupational hazard of being not only visible, but easily targeted is a very good idea. There should be separate leadership for the Shadows, who would then take more direct missions from the CoFK.
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Broon Krano
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Post by Broon Krano on Nov 18, 2013 19:02:05 GMT -8
I'd like to be assigned under the Council of Reconciliation but not as a Council member for now since I'm only a knight.
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Mike Frantz
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 18, 2013 19:07:50 GMT -8
Disclaimer: Knights are welcomed on any if those three councils.
As for the Masters meeting, if everyone is agreeable once everyone is there I would like the former councilors that remain to open the meeting up, start the voting and then let the new council kind of get the torch passed to them to finish it out, if everyone likes that idea of course.
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Broon Krano
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Post by Broon Krano on Nov 18, 2013 19:20:38 GMT -8
In that case I suppose I could volunteer to be on the council, but I'll step down if three masters step forward.
Council of First Knowledge
1. Raylia Venci
2. Jedi Master Rawkill
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Ael Jade
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Post by Ael Jade on Nov 18, 2013 20:17:55 GMT -8
So glad Ray said what she did earlier. I seem to keep running across the opinion put forth by some Jedi that "because I'm not on the HC I and my opinions don't matter." What is up with this? >.<
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Alpharius
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Post by Alpharius on Nov 18, 2013 20:37:41 GMT -8
Self-depreciation and general feeling that in character rank applies out of character.
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Aerandir Calmcacil
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Nov 18, 2013 20:42:34 GMT -8
It's not an opinion I want spread. Everyone has a say in this.
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Mike Frantz
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 18, 2013 20:46:48 GMT -8
Everyone has an opinion that is as valuable as anyone else's and everyone else's opinion is a great deal more important than mine. While we have an HC that is nearly for direction and RP purposes and that does not mean our opinion is greater than that of anyone else's. so no more self depreciating talk or I'll give you my council seat and make you fill out all the requisitions for Adi's hair products.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 21:22:18 GMT -8
I'd say, go ahead and toss your name in that ring, Kay'li. As far as a shadow being on the CoFK, that's not a problem. However, to me, it's a lot like a CIA agent becoming head of the CIA. There face is familiar and known as a spy. Their field work will take a back seat to the daily operations of running the Shadows...but, perhaps already has, since they are the leader of the Shadows. Just my two cents (not that anyone cares as I am no longer on the HC and don't matter). I just think it's more interesting to work as a Shadow if it's clandestine and they aren't known as Shadows, even to the majority of the Order. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 21:57:41 GMT -8
I could get down with the Council of Reassignment. The job is more internalized into the order itself and keeps the character out of, or at least reduces the chances of, violence. Seems like a great way to mingle a lot with the various sects and conclaves.
I'd love to do it if you guys would have me.
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Post by Zion Morviael [RETIRED] on Nov 18, 2013 23:17:25 GMT -8
Such things happen when one is handed one defeat after another, culminating in what Matango felt was the greatest failure in the recent history of the Jedi.
He had allowed the destruction of an entire planet. He fully expected the Jedi Council to oust him as Watch Lead, and put someone more competent in charge of the team. Couldn't really blame them...they gave him a task, and he had failed that task miserably. He just sat quietly, and waited for the hammer to come down. I know Zion isn't the most perfect Jedi and perhaps my view of what being a Jedi are a little skewed, but an entire planet is destroyed and he gets promoted to the council? o.O |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 23:23:23 GMT -8
Technically Monte was the one who blows up the Base
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Adi
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Post by Adi on Nov 18, 2013 23:38:54 GMT -8
So valor in the face of overwhelming forces, lives saved, and bravery beyond the call of duty isn't enough? >_<
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Post by Zion Morviael [RETIRED] on Nov 19, 2013 0:33:19 GMT -8
In that case, give the man an award! it's why we have things like the Victoria Cross and the Medal of Honour  It'd be like electing a Soldier who won one of those awards to their respective senates or higher rank of political power... |
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Post by Jena Shaewe on Nov 19, 2013 3:17:01 GMT -8
Posted in the High Council Spire....Jena's not being rude, she's just having memories/issues from the last time on Coruscant - plus I won't be able to post until after work on Tuedsay night so I didn't want to hold everything up by having her speak to someone when she entered the Council Chambers....
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Mike Frantz
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 19, 2013 6:22:15 GMT -8
Well in Adi's defense.... A lightsaber isn't really good at deflecting planet busters.... So.... Not totally his fault
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Jerek Morrows
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 19, 2013 6:40:12 GMT -8
Considering if anyone read the rp on Carida, they'd see willing cooperation with a dangerous Sith, a slipping Jedi Master who was losing control of emotions and exemplifying a blatant disregard for authority on Adieumus' part, I'd agree there is some measure of continuity lapsing by promoting him to the council.
But screw common sense, there was a vote! Right? ...right?
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Lord Sinistra
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Post by Lord Sinistra on Nov 19, 2013 7:09:46 GMT -8
I look at the HC the same way I look at my lords in Dark Tide. Yes they serve IC functions, but truthfully, their promotion serves more of an OOC help with creating RP scenarios and leading the group towards our common goals.
I didn't vote for people because of their IC traits, I voted because from an OOC standpoint, I think these five are capable at leading the Jedi Order OOC towards a more inclusive and welcoming unit.
If you had a problem with the candidates, the time to bring that up was a week ago. At this point, we need to overlook our petty (yes, petty) differences and do what we can to facilitate a better experience for all involved. No one is going to agree all the time. You may not like a character but you don't have to. The only thing you should be willing to do is RP a Jedi to the best of your abilities. Don't like Adi IC, think he doesn't deserve his seat? Well, have the CoRecon investigate him after the war is over.
However I would like to reiterate that we are in a war. War is not pretty and it isn't perfect. When you're facing genocide, you get desperate to survive. You don't abandon ideas because it's better to live by your morals than let the Mandos continue their march. You do whatever you can to survive. You do things you would normally despise. War pushes you to the brink.
If you want to make collaborating with the Sith an issue, you're gonna have a real hard time when the holovid pops up in the HC chambers and Sinistra asks for help because without helping each other, no one is going to survive the Mando onslaught.
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Eli Vandal
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Post by Eli Vandal on Nov 19, 2013 7:39:34 GMT -8
Along similar lines:
1. I voted for mine both out of IC and OOC reasons. Activity and willingness to write with all members of the site was a large motivator, along with the willingness to accept change as it came. As for people rolling with the punches in universe, they're not many that can boast a more positive attitude than Adi.
2. People could have argued that Mace Windu verged close to the Darkside, yet he was considered a BA. That being said, Adi was doing that for the purposes of a storyline that's been scrapped, or sacrificed, since the recent mass exodus. He's changing his arc's to meet the needs of the Jedi Order, which currently needs as many characters/writers as it can get.
3. The idea of setting aside differences is not a new concept when an enemy advances without prejudice. It's something the site has been talking about it and it's a real possibility. And let's be honest here, for a second...it's not the first time the Jedi Order has worked with a darksider (*cough*Iniquitous*cough*turningintoalightsider*cough*)
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Mike Frantz
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 19, 2013 7:56:40 GMT -8
And all things considered I was on Carida as well which would make me just as guilty of what happened. Granted Adi was in charge, but lets face it it's not like I would do anything I didn't want to just because he told me too. Haha. But like sin said, the time has passed for that to be considered a valid point in his being on the council or not. If its a big enough issue open a war crimes case against him, but aside from that things stand as they are and there is no going back... At least not until next years elections.
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