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Post by Alkor Centaris on May 1, 2013 9:13:29 GMT -8
I don't kill people. I just... answer a specific need for euthanasia.
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Mike Frantz
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Post by Mike Frantz on May 1, 2013 9:41:53 GMT -8
Translation: I'm attempting to create a convenient excuse to kill whoever I want without the council getting their collective panties in a bunch.
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Post by Devlin Dewe on May 1, 2013 9:42:45 GMT -8
Doesn't have to be me. Could be any of our esteemed Councillors. Or more than one.
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Post by Mike Frantz on May 1, 2013 9:44:44 GMT -8
Yeah I know, but you just seemed to be volunteering
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Post by Devlin Dewe on May 1, 2013 9:45:55 GMT -8
True. What can I say, I like the hermit life. It's more relaxing than fighting all the time.
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Post by Mike Frantz on May 1, 2013 9:47:05 GMT -8
True, but fighting is always more fun when you are buzzed.
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Post by Alkor Centaris on May 1, 2013 10:09:29 GMT -8
I don't need a convenient excuse. I have a lightsaber.
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Post by Krzesimir Viggo on May 1, 2013 11:57:57 GMT -8
Hmmm, I'm runnig a bit of a merc operation at the moment, mostly ships for now, if you want some extra mussel for your RP(s), since you are in the middle of a war. Pawn, the man in charge, has a Republic-class SD and couple of light cruisers, two squadrons of I-7 Howlrunners (and room for 3 more squdrons) available at the moment, for a reasonable price(negotiable). For significantly more, you may be able to convince Pawn to reallocate some of his all ready deployed forces, (roughly equal to the forces being offered) over to your command in addition the above.
Pawn, normally would come make the deal in person, but he is currently busy with other jobs at the moment, so one of you will have to notice the add he put out on the holonet and call in(PM) to place your order. Advertised rate is 7.693 million "7 per week for the SD, 962 thousand "7 per week for a Light Cruiser, 145 thousand "7 per week for a squadron of I-7 Howlrunners, 36.25 thousand "7 per week to carry a squadron of your fighters and their support crew; or 50% retail price of the ship if it is destroyed while in your employ.
"7 = Credit(s)
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Post by Jago on May 1, 2013 12:18:15 GMT -8
Now where's the dislike button ...
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Post by Will Sontir on May 1, 2013 14:50:45 GMT -8
And, on that note; Yo, what up people? High Council Announcement time!The High Council have had a chat and a vote about the matter of replacing Vesten. In our estimations, the best person for the job, and the person we think is most deserving of a seat on the High Council, is; Will Sontir.Welcome to the party, pal. Congrats. oooo geeeze. I guess I should be less of the anarchist and join the system. *hem, hem* Stop being Neiomodians to the Council! WE work very hard for your best interests. . . even when you do know what that is, who saying, why and how long it takes. Don't you worry! Pay no attention to the librarian sitting in Ossus! He is definitely NOT THE EVIL MASTERMIND bringing us to the darkside. Umm, but seriously, I want to thank the Academy (Corellian) for this honor, Serrin, Mikey. My producers (Saum Son'tir and Kristina Caster). I am contractually obligated to thank Matango Lighting and Effects for my amazing stage. And, of course, the Force. Thanks. I really do hope to make splash both on and off the boards and honor you guys in ways that won't make any of you question this appointment. You can always PM me about concerns, ideas, or the like. Be sure that I will poll many of you about the new ideas I or WE might have to get your direct feedback about things. And I hope to receive a PM from the Council about how to IC and formerly take this role. Also, with that in mind, how should we proceed with bestowing mastery on to Adi? I assume we still don't have any issues from that 12 pages ago?
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Post by Devlin Dewe on May 1, 2013 14:57:44 GMT -8
*Taps fingers together quickly* Excellent... *Looks around* Oops. *Closes green curtains* Wait, Adi still wants to be a Master? That was like ...12 pages ago. Nearly an eternity. I'm pretty sure we were just hoping he'd forget about it or it'd get swept under the rug.
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Post by Adi on May 1, 2013 17:08:23 GMT -8
I didn't forget, I was just being patient. I knew you guys would eventually get around to it...and of COURSE I do. Y'all need someone like me to keep Will's ego in check...and slap Alkor when he needs it.
*slaps Alkor* Meh, he always needs it.
Regardless, we can get to Adi becoming a Master when we get there. Will, this is your moment bro....enjoy it. Congratulations!! I was pullin for ya!
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Post by Will Sontir on May 1, 2013 17:37:08 GMT -8
Only for a moment . . . and the moment's gone.
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Post by Alkor Centaris on May 1, 2013 18:12:30 GMT -8
MY ASS!
OH, ADI, YOU FLIRT! STAHP!
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on May 2, 2013 7:35:27 GMT -8
Transparency: I feel that most things should be kept 'open' with everyone (or at least the jedi/people that hack info from the jedi databases) being able to fully read it (OOC)/know what went on in general terms (IC). With some meetings being listed as "Off the Books" or "Closed" meetings that everyone can still read OOC but will not know about IC.
Groups: Personally, I don't really care one way or another. Some people want groups, others don't. I think we should have them, but also be understanding of 'freelance' jedi that might shift from group to group in what they do. (such as a jedi hunting down sith one day, then later serving as a personal guard of some Senator.)
HQ: I think that both Yavin 4 & Coruscant have long, powerful histories as jedi bases. As such, at least a minor HQ should be at each (with its own Councilor's chamber, & the ability to connect them in real time via the holonet). That way the jedi have a fall back point if either place ends up going to hell in a hand-basket. (Also you then have a presence both on the fringe of the galaxy & right in the center as well).
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Post by Dav Man'Sell on May 2, 2013 7:50:11 GMT -8
Coruscant, I think, should be the Order's heart. All actual meetings should be held there. Yavin is a major teaching establishment, yes, and will always be a good place to go to if you need to find someone high up - if you're in the outer rim, and Coruscant would take you five days to reach, then Yavin is a better place to stop, especially as Dav and Jago are both based there, and Ossus and Felucia (with Devlin, and Raven and Aer, respectively based on those worlds) nearby, Yavin is a reasonably good hub for the Rim. We don't keep a permanent Council chamber on Yavin just because we never envisioned it being a permanent base for the Council, though we do have the Grand Audience Chamber that serves that purpose when it's needed, complete with Holonet connection and holo projection, and other purposes when not. But Coruscant is certainly the main heart of the Order, I think.
Now, groups. We should revisit this.
I think, perhaps, we need to create an umbrella group through which the Coruscant Temple is created, that combines our numbers, serves as the group for the roaming Jedi, and so on. We also need to once more ask the Whills how they'd like us to do this if we wish to combine numbers for Faction bonuses; are we able to combine our numbers for roaming bonuses (such as SSDs), yet identify separately for location specific bonuses (like defence platforms and additional Faction HQs)? Is it one or the other? What's the fairest way of doing it - because the standard system requires that we either give up bases, or we give up on some of the Jedi Order's combined military might. These are all questions that the Whills need to give us definitive answers on.
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Post by Syren on May 2, 2013 8:04:27 GMT -8
I'm having a little bit of trouble understanding this whole concept, so if someone would mind taking me aside to explain, that would be very kind. So I am interpreting this whole Jedi Council/Counselors, idea I will say, as only the writers a part of the Jedi Council (Dav, Jago, Serrin, Will, Devlin, Aerandir, Vesten?, Zane?, Mike?... other people I am missing) can come up with story lines related to Jedi, can give the "ok, such and such can play a Jedi here on JvS," any ideas that non-council members want to put forth must be given the "ok you can do that story line," and overall controlling the creative stream that will be coming out of the usergroup of the Jedi Order. This could be a wrong interpretation, but this is the feeling I have every time I click over to read this thread. So to recap, since that sentence is kinda jumbled: Only Jedi Council Members of the Jedi Order Usergroup: - Can come up with story lines for the Jedi Order
- If other, non-council, members of the Jedi Order have story lines, they must be approved by the council first
- Can approve writers to write as Jedi, whether for the Jedi Order Usergroup or not
- Can control the overall creative collaboration of story lines for the Jedi
This is just a feeling I have, and I keep butting my head against it because it feels like there is a very strict control over story lines that seems to have been tightening since Tython. Other people might not see this as a bad thing, but I just have a bad feeling about this.
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Post by Jago on May 2, 2013 8:13:41 GMT -8
Misinterpretation, SySy. We're not an oligarchy dictatorship controlling every aspect of Jedi Life. Ask the Corellian Jedi Order, or even us, the Yavinites: we frequently do lots of things without getting the Council involved whatsoever.
No one is trying to control Jedi SLs, or Jedi writers, or anything like that. With MAJOR, Galactic-spanning, All-Jedi-Involved StoryLines, I'd imagine everyone would enjoy a little communication and cooperation, but, so say, if you feel like today's the day Syren goes and stops a slaver ring on Rendili ... Then go stop a slaver ring on Rendili. You don't need to tell the Council you plan to do this, wait for the paperwork to be filled out (in triplicate), and get approval via snail mail.
The Council was/is supposed to serve more as a coordinating point, so that way if one of us goes "Hey, I've got a really neat idea for a plot for the entire Order (or one large chunk of it, what have you)", then that idea can get out there to the rest of the community so our fellow Jedi writers can go "Hey, that's pretty neat, I'm all for that."
We're not meant to delegate tasks and responsibilities to other people. We're not here to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own character. We are, very simply, a focusing point for Jedi ideas and characters. Not a single Councilor is going to tell anyone else how to run their character or their storylines, and I will personally tell off any single one that does.
WITH THAT SAID, acting in a manner not befitting a Jedi (read: turning Dark) will have IC consequences and the like, but that's part of story and character development, and is always a writer's choice.
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Post by Adi on May 2, 2013 8:41:02 GMT -8
This one is at Dav's post....specifically groups...and talking about 'bonuses'....
The Jedi do NOT HAVE TROOPS. We do NOT have fleets. We simply command them. Why are we shooting for bonuses, SSDs, and troops when it should be the Republic's duty to get that part going...with our help? Our Jedi group should not have fleets or troops, or anything of the sort. We should be looking at ways to help the GR get their military off the ground, not how to get the fleets/armies/whatever bonuses for -us-.
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Post by Jago on May 2, 2013 8:46:24 GMT -8
From an IC standpoint, Yavin has always worked it where our ships are basically on-loan from the Republic to be a task force in the Eastern Rim (to respond to threats out there), led by the resident Jedi, but every ship, soldier, and sailor is a part of The Republic.
With that in mind, to us, getting ships and soldiers for the Jedi IS getting ships and soldiers for The Republic. Sorry for the confusion.
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