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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 15:26:15 GMT -8
I dont know. I always pictured Fel dying because he went down with his ship. Like he got wounded or something, knew he wasn't going to make it, so he tricked the crew into leaving, and then like, suicided his ship into something large, threatening, and highly explosive when little ships run into it. But only little ships. Because LOGIC.
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 1, 2015 16:47:19 GMT -8
I was going for corny in the sense that it's humorous
I could have gone into the love interest between the Doc and the Ol Cap. How the two were more that lovers of a good fight... wing wink nudge nudge
But that may have been too much of a plot twist!!!
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Post by Karana Malora on May 1, 2015 17:09:13 GMT -8
I dont know. I always pictured Fel dying because he went down with his ship. Like he got wounded or something, knew he wasn't going to make it, so he tricked the crew into leaving, and then like, suicided his ship into something large, threatening, and highly explosive when little ships run into it. But only little ships. Because LOGIC. ...This is exactly what's in my brain about Fel's death scene. Like, exactly. o_o
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 17:27:16 GMT -8
I was going for corny in the sense that it's humorous I could have gone into the love interest between the Doc and the Ol Cap. How the two were more that lovers of a good fight... wing wink nudge nudge But that may have been too much of a plot twist!!! I like the love interest angle; it makes for a love triangle with you guys and Lor. Then we can get a whole unrequited love thing going on. I dont know. I always pictured Fel dying because he went down with his ship. Like he got wounded or something, knew he wasn't going to make it, so he tricked the crew into leaving, and then like, suicided his ship into something large, threatening, and highly explosive when little ships run into it. But only little ships. Because LOGIC. ...This is exactly what's in my brain about Fel's death scene. Like, exactly. o_o Fel and Dante are pretty similar, honestly. Obvious differences aside, they have absolute loyalty to those that are in their family. There isn't much they wouldn't do for them. Add the smuggler ship fetish into the mix, and presto, lol. Honestly, Dante will probably die in a similar fashion, just with a sword or some weapon in his hand. Probably blast a door to close on you guys.
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Post by Liya Tawaza on May 1, 2015 18:17:45 GMT -8
I've always imagined that Liya will go out with such a bang, there won't be anything left of her to be recovered or buried.
But not for a good long time.
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Post by Liya Tawaza on May 1, 2015 18:45:06 GMT -8
Mirian Santiro and Karana Malora: the crew has several ships already... more than we would prefer. Our largest ship is a Loronar Medium Transport, 'The Red Cred.' That's the ship that's on Bespin right now, and Liya's freighter is stashed in one of her cargo holds (no longer garaged!). I doubt the Red Cred would fit aboard Miriam's ship Karana has our other freighter, and oldest ship, 'The Unfair Advantage,' with her on Myrkr. We had a fourth ship, but our former crewmates Sam, Myranda, and Aoife have been in void for years, and presumably we left them and their freighter behind at Oz Griffin's station on the Smuggler's Run.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on May 1, 2015 19:22:53 GMT -8
I'm a pretty 'fly by the seat of my pants' writer. I don't enjoy plotting things out to the nth degree, as I feel the caliber of writing (from me at least) goes up the more spontaneous I can be.
That said, I've been pretty fixed on the old Sci-Fi / Western trope of the hero or anti-hero who facilitates a new beginning or salvation for (in this case, his crew) though he must trade his own life to do so. On the other hand, there's also the rarer, but equally intriguing plot device of the loner who carves out an unlikely future for those he / she cares about, knowing full-well there is no place for what he has become in that future, for he has been forced to become the very thing he seeks to defeat during the struggle.
I'm not sure how it'll play out, if it plays out. But if it does, I'd lay odds it'll follow one of those paths.
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Post by Mirian Santiro on May 1, 2015 19:22:58 GMT -8
lol, I was just trailing the conversation here a bit. You all sound like the Fast & the Furious crew in space. And Liya Tawaza, You're right, I don't think the Red Cred would fit in my wee ship. Well, a Retrofit Consular class cruiser IS bigger than a Loronar, but yeah, a Loronar would have a hard time getting into the micro hangar bay. Four ships! Wow, you guys ARE the Fast & the Furious crew! A small fleet of freighters is awesome. Maybe I'll stash my specially configured escape pod in one of your ships instead.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 10:56:30 GMT -8
I'm a pretty 'fly by the seat of my pants' writer. I don't enjoy plotting things out to the nth degree, as I feel the caliber of writing (from me at least) goes up the more spontaneous I can be. That said, I've been pretty fixed on the old Sci-Fi / Western trope of the hero or anti-hero who facilitates a new beginning or salvation for (in this case, his crew) though he must trade his own life to do so. On the other hand, there's also the rarer, but equally intriguing plot device of the loner who carves out an unlikely future for those he / she cares about, knowing full-well there is no place for what he has become in that future, for he has been forced to become the very thing he seeks to defeat during the struggle. I'm not sure how it'll play out, if it plays out. But if it does, I'd lay odds it'll follow one of those paths. I've always been a fan of the personal redemption/absolution of a anti-hero character who is forced to do the immoral, myself. Then there's the ever popular "retired" anti-hero who has gone to hero; the need for him to once again be the anti-hero conflicts with his new moral paradigm. I guess my psychology degrees show a bit; I love the duality of morality/immorality, good/bad, right/wrong paradox. I have the same tendency for the loner savior plot device myself; its practically why the Sorrows "curse" exists - IE, they all die in the end. I'm still learning Fel as a character, as I've only had limited exposure to him IC. How does his military past figure into his own struggles?
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 2, 2015 13:04:35 GMT -8
I've always been a fan of the personal redemption/absolution of a anti-hero character who is forced to do the immoral, myself. Then there's the ever popular "retired" anti-hero who has gone to hero; the need for him to once again be the anti-hero conflicts with his new moral paradigm. I guess my psychology degrees show a bit; I love the duality of morality/immorality, good/bad, right/wrong paradox. Oh god you sound like one of those filthy absolutist sith/jedi haha Always has to be all this or that, never and inbetween. Good/bad, right/wrong ect is all left up to the social and cultural norms of the individual in order to determine an event of said social deviance. What maybe good in my eye, and in my own culture maybe seen as evil in your own. That's like saying a person is normal...what is normal? ...kinda a psychological major with a sociology minor...among many other things...
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Post by Wade on May 2, 2015 13:52:10 GMT -8
I've always been a fan of the personal redemption/absolution of a anti-hero character who is forced to do the immoral, myself. Then there's the ever popular "retired" anti-hero who has gone to hero; the need for him to once again be the anti-hero conflicts with his new moral paradigm. I guess my psychology degrees show a bit; I love the duality of morality/immorality, good/bad, right/wrong paradox. Oh god you sound like one of those filthy absolutist sith/jedi haha Always has to be all this or that, never and inbetween. Good/bad, right/wrong ect is all left up to the social and cultural norms of the individual in order to determine an event of said social deviance. What maybe good in my eye, and in my own culture maybe seen as evil in your own. That's like saying a person is normal...what is normal? ...kinda a psychological major with a sociology minor...among many other things... So what you're saying here is... Only a sith deals in absolutes?
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 2, 2015 13:59:19 GMT -8
Oh god you sound like one of those filthy absolutist sith/jedi haha Always has to be all this or that, never and inbetween. Good/bad, right/wrong ect is all left up to the social and cultural norms of the individual in order to determine an event of said social deviance. What maybe good in my eye, and in my own culture maybe seen as evil in your own. That's like saying a person is normal...what is normal? ...kinda a psychological major with a sociology minor...among many other things... So what you're saying here is... Only a sith deals in absolutes? That statement in and amongst itself is absolutist hoopla/ jedi bigotry, and discrimination against sith!! Winners history, the jedi won the war so they wrote history when they were the closed minded bigots to cast off the slight difference in thinking that lead to the religious faction of sith. It's a reflection of early Christian history
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 2, 2015 13:59:50 GMT -8
But is see what you did there...
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 14:39:43 GMT -8
...kinda a psychological major with a sociology minor...among many other things... Phew, was thinking I was the only one with college in Psychology. You'll learn in advanced psych of the principle of human preservation, also known as "moral laws". Humans, as a species, will almost always agree of the mutual preservation of units and macro units in order to preserve the individual unit in turn; even distinct units, say, separate countries with no ties to each other, will inevitably develop separate but wholly similar moral structures based on that preservation. Ultimately, its considered that the moral law is the single most binding fundament that humans have; as we're all thinking logical creatures, moral laws are a product through truth of reason. In essence, the ability to reason leads to patterns in reasoning (the very basis of psychology), with these patterns of reason coming to near universal overarching patterns of reason, truths out of reason, which lead most (with some deviancy) to the same basic conclusions of human behavior. In other words, pretty much anywhere you go around the globe, murder, rape, theft, and other acts are universally dealt with the same way; death, imprisonment, conviction, exile, etc - negative reactions. Albeit, these standards can vary - sometimes slightly, sometimes greatly - depending on culture and social norms; the same trend is still typically present in most human behavior. ... Meh. But enough Psych. I come here to get away from the office Does Ronin do cybernetics? Or am I going to have to find a different Doc? Cause I'm going to need my Cybernetic muscle package touched up on, along with a few other things.
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 3, 2015 4:51:05 GMT -8
Ronin can do basic cybernetic instalation and field dressing due to his time at the Red Dawn Medical Facility but anything in depth Ronin doesn't have the training or knowledge to perform said task
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Post by Galdaart Fel on May 3, 2015 7:53:32 GMT -8
Good question Dante. When in the Imperial war machine, Fel was still learning. At first, it was his ticket off the Tarisian underworld, and out into the 'verse. Then he discovered piloting, and yeah, for a while, there was a love affair where he swallowed the doctrine, because it meant he got to fly. Then it became family, not unlike the Crew. He commanded a squadron, and he did his best to keep his people alive, even in the face of overwhelming opposition, bad orders, faulty intel, poor command structure. The love affair ended, replaced with a fierce determination to do right by 'his' people. Over the months and years, he also saw the chinks in the Imperial dogma, like an altar-boy who has seen one too many foul things done in the name of the church. He grew to fear and loathe the people who sent his squadron on suicide missions. And as the numbers of skilled pilots, veterans dwindled and he was left training green recruits, yet facing the same odds, he became a little mad, stretching in the pilots' seat, taking extraordinary risks to 'save' his own people, and hating himself more with every one that didn't come home. He became insubordinate, a terrible officer, a liability in the officer corps. And he was disciplined, busted down to barely a flight officer. But they couldn't ground him. He was too valuable in the cockpit. So it became a self-fulfilling prophesy. Ever worse odds, more medals, ever more losses. The day over Dantooine was inevitable. As was his incarceration. Everything since has been a direct result of that time. Fel's reluctance to trust, his monumental fear of losing one of his own, his lack of close relationships (Liya and Jace have been with the crew three years IRL, and I'd be hard pressed to find a time they shared more than a few sentences with their Cap'n at any one time.) His inability to love, his fear and hatred of the Imperials, his distrust of the Force, the few items he holds dear... all of it points to his past, though outside of Malora, I'm not sure how many in the crew really know that.
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Post by Liya Tawaza on May 3, 2015 9:25:34 GMT -8
I think Liya has seen enough to suspect that Fel is an ex-Imp pilot, but she would just be guessing. Certainly, the Imps sending a bounty hunter after him reinforces that notion. And she doesn't know why he's so closed, or what they did to him to leave him broken, but she probably wouldn't feel that she has any right to ask, either. She's curious, and she cares a little bit, because it's similar to her own experiences, but she knows everyone on the crew has their secrets, and for good reason. Liya actually knows more about Dante than Jace or Fel or Malora, at this point.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on May 3, 2015 9:31:17 GMT -8
...makes sense. And actually, that sense of sameness, of familiarity, and privacy (along with a great many other qualities) is one of the reasons Fel likes Liya so much.
And he really does, you know?
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Post by Wade on May 3, 2015 9:38:39 GMT -8
And nobody knows anything at all about Wade...
Not even me. >_>
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 3, 2015 9:41:44 GMT -8
Oh yea? Noone really knows much about Ronin except the stuff that's public knowledge...that Fel was able to retrieve after a small look up...but other than that he is a mystery!!!
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